Fleeing or travelling?

It was an honor to be guest in one of the most popular travel podcasts ever – Zero to Travel by Jason Moore!
I was 25 years old when I got my passport and could travel. After a lifetime of being a refugee and fleeing from country to country, travelling seemed like the most scary and painful thing to do. Nine years later I have been in over 40 countries and plan to travel more. I just had to hack it and find my own way of being a traveller. This is what we discuss in the podcast in addition to the whole story of me coming to Norway, writing books and being a rebel:-)